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RE: How to Debunk "Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People" [dTube]

in #news7 years ago (edited)

Way to go, Dave. You're really making Uncle Rahm proud!

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btw, actual quote.

I do not know what is more sad, your whiny caller pleading for your help "Dave, please help me to beat their unbeatable argument! I can't think of one on my own!"

.....or your laughable advice "Well my boy, their argument is dumb so it doesn't count. "

The only problem is that you go in for the next two minutes PROVING that guns don't kill people, people kill people. Your analogy about cars proves exactly that point.

If you were truly being honest, you'd admit that "stricter gun laws" are not your true goal, but rather the outright CRIMINALIZATION and CONFISCATION of all guns in America.

You state "We have decided as a society that devices that can be used to harm others should be regulated" There are already laws in every state and federal laws that regulate guns. Minors are not permitted to own or purchase guns. Guns are not allowed on or near school property. It is illegal to shoot a person unless in self defense (in many cases, it's illegal to even brandish a firearm).

Did any of these laws prevent this person from using guns to commit a crime? NO! Could more laws have prevented him from figuring out a way to do what was in his heart? NO!

If you truly were a thinking person, you wouldn't just respond with the knee-jerk reaction of "More Laws, Stricter Laws" and actually try to get to the root cause.

For instance, there have been guns in America since the founding of the nation, yet these school shootings are a relatively recent occurrence (I can't find any examples of student mass shootings in the 50's, 60's 70's or even the 80's). So what has changed (other than Trump)? If you really wanted to investigate something, investigate that. Investigate what has changed!

However, I fear you are just playing the tune that your liberal leaning audience wants to hear. After all, you too probably have a mortgage to pay.

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no, my goal is not the confiscation of all guns. There is absolutely no evidence you could point to that would justify your assertion. It is just slippery slope propaganda.

Sure there is. The real "slippery slope propaganda" is that more gun laws could have somehow prevented this tragedy and others like it.

This young man already broke numerous laws perpetrating this PREMEDITATED crime. I challenge you to name one (rational) law that could have been passed that could have prevented him from committing this criminal act. Any law (short of confiscation and criminalization of gun ownership) could have been easily circumvented by this young man intent on completing his deadly mission.

Obviously, you have no interest in investigating the true root causes of these violent acts. That is the one, true way, to prevent these kinds of acts from ever happening again.

what is your goal exactly? what gun laws do you propose?

I love how he proceeded to list off a bunch of regulations of drivers, not cars. That was hilarious.